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		<title>By: The Bagel&#8217;s Spurs striker watch - Spurs Blog and Forum - Tottenham Hotspur Football Club</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/01/no-keeper-to-be-kept/#comment-41527</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bagel&#8217;s Spurs striker watch - Spurs Blog and Forum - Tottenham Hotspur Football Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now, the rumour that&#8217;s got me all a-twitter is the resurfacing of the one from Christmas over Lyon&#8217;s Brazilian striker, Dave. The 24-year-old big man striker looks like a reasonable, if likely expensive and probably not as good, replacement for Dimitar the Great and may well even come with the sulky attitude to match. All we have to do is stick a wig on his head tied up with a shoelace and no one will even notice. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, the rumour that&#8217;s got me all a-twitter is the resurfacing of the one from Christmas over Lyon&#8217;s Brazilian striker, Dave. The 24-year-old big man striker looks like a reasonable, if likely expensive and probably not as good, replacement for Dimitar the Great and may well even come with the sulky attitude to match. All we have to do is stick a wig on his head tied up with a shoelace and no one will even notice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/01/no-keeper-to-be-kept/#comment-25406</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was living in Barcelona I remember the Jordys coming out for a Champions league game and taking over the centre of town. There was a headline the following day in the local Catalan paper above a photo of two drunken topless fatties which translated to "They are ugly but they are nice".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was living in Barcelona I remember the Jordys coming out for a Champions league game and taking over the centre of town. There was a headline the following day in the local Catalan paper above a photo of two drunken topless fatties which translated to &#8220;They are ugly but they are nice&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: oog</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/01/no-keeper-to-be-kept/#comment-25404</link>
		<dc:creator>oog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its the media who declares that they are the best fans in the country rather than it being self declaring. They certainly are among the best away fans who ever come to the lane.

I also don't think they expect to win everything and I do not believe you have met many newcastle fans who have ever told you that they expect to win everything or even very much. Again, its another media myth, probably perpetuated by finding a couple of big fat shirtless geordies who will say anything to fit the stereotype on camera rather than listening to the views of the thousands of normal fans.

Obviously they (by which I mean Freddie Shepherd) have made mistakes in the past, and its quite nice for everyone to be laughing at them rather than us for their managerial mishaps (!), but I do feel sorry (if I stop to think about it, anyway...) for the fans who get it in the neck simply for being passionate and seeming to care about their team. And judging by the new library last week, Arsenal could do with a few more of them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its the media who declares that they are the best fans in the country rather than it being self declaring. They certainly are among the best away fans who ever come to the lane.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think they expect to win everything and I do not believe you have met many newcastle fans who have ever told you that they expect to win everything or even very much. Again, its another media myth, probably perpetuated by finding a couple of big fat shirtless geordies who will say anything to fit the stereotype on camera rather than listening to the views of the thousands of normal fans.</p>
<p>Obviously they (by which I mean Freddie Shepherd) have made mistakes in the past, and its quite nice for everyone to be laughing at them rather than us for their managerial mishaps (!), but I do feel sorry (if I stop to think about it, anyway&#8230;) for the fans who get it in the neck simply for being passionate and seeming to care about their team. And judging by the new library last week, Arsenal could do with a few more of them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WHS</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/01/no-keeper-to-be-kept/#comment-25398</link>
		<dc:creator>WHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot the difference :

Big Sam Alladyce

Mark Hughes

???

Anyone got it yet, nor me - for all the grievances that my team puts me through, for all the cursing, peaks and troughs, for the pain she delivers to my love for her, I still feel blessed I'm not a newcastle fan.

While whining that Big Sam didn't play the attractive Keegan-esque football demanded up north, despite the fact that he has no history of playing the game with any kind of football pedigree, watch as they welcome a new saviour, expect petals to be cast in front of his every step, cries of 'watch us win everything including the scudetta' will echo across the tyne.

The cheers on Hughes arrival at St James Park will not mask deep lying feelings that, actually, this is no match made in heaven, that in fact all that will happen is Big Sam part 2.

Those self declaring (deluding?) 'best fans in the country' should prepare themselves for more of the same, who can see it ending?

They deserve it for treating Sir Bobby with so little respect !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot the difference :</p>
<p>Big Sam Alladyce</p>
<p>Mark Hughes</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>Anyone got it yet, nor me - for all the grievances that my team puts me through, for all the cursing, peaks and troughs, for the pain she delivers to my love for her, I still feel blessed I&#8217;m not a newcastle fan.</p>
<p>While whining that Big Sam didn&#8217;t play the attractive Keegan-esque football demanded up north, despite the fact that he has no history of playing the game with any kind of football pedigree, watch as they welcome a new saviour, expect petals to be cast in front of his every step, cries of &#8216;watch us win everything including the scudetta&#8217; will echo across the tyne.</p>
<p>The cheers on Hughes arrival at St James Park will not mask deep lying feelings that, actually, this is no match made in heaven, that in fact all that will happen is Big Sam part 2.</p>
<p>Those self declaring (deluding?) &#8216;best fans in the country&#8217; should prepare themselves for more of the same, who can see it ending?</p>
<p>They deserve it for treating Sir Bobby with so little respect !</p>
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		<title>By: TobytheYid</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobytheYid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven't read this:

Paul Robinson was told he could leave Tottenham in a meeting with chairman Daniel Levy on Thursday.
Levy severely censured Robinson for his support of Jol, telling aides that he wanted the goalkeeper out of the club. Sporting director &lt;b&gt;Damien Comolli&lt;/b&gt; was also firmly in the anti-Robinson camp, going to the extraordinary length of &lt;b&gt;advising Steve McClaren to drop Robinson&lt;/b&gt; some months before November's Euro 2008 qualifier against Croatia, in which the coach fatefully replaced him with Scott Carson.

Full article:
 http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2240124,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t read this:</p>
<p>Paul Robinson was told he could leave Tottenham in a meeting with chairman Daniel Levy on Thursday.<br />
Levy severely censured Robinson for his support of Jol, telling aides that he wanted the goalkeeper out of the club. Sporting director <b>Damien Comolli</b> was also firmly in the anti-Robinson camp, going to the extraordinary length of <b>advising Steve McClaren to drop Robinson</b> some months before November&#8217;s Euro 2008 qualifier against Croatia, in which the coach fatefully replaced him with Scott Carson.</p>
<p>Full article:<br />
 <a href="http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2240124,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2240124,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: oog</title>
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		<dc:creator>oog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a huge Chimbonda fan. He's a good player but he makes me nervous me by trying to dribble out of trouble or by being too clever clever in deep areas all the time (I think the goal we conceded against Watford last season was an example of this).

Plus, he's too mercenary. All players are mercenaries, more or less, some are just more vocal than others, and he annoys me. But we knew that when we signed him to be fair.

He should just be trotting out the cliche about welcoming competition for his place. He could still agitate for a move, he just doesn't have to be so open about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a huge Chimbonda fan. He&#8217;s a good player but he makes me nervous me by trying to dribble out of trouble or by being too clever clever in deep areas all the time (I think the goal we conceded against Watford last season was an example of this).</p>
<p>Plus, he&#8217;s too mercenary. All players are mercenaries, more or less, some are just more vocal than others, and he annoys me. But we knew that when we signed him to be fair.</p>
<p>He should just be trotting out the cliche about welcoming competition for his place. He could still agitate for a move, he just doesn&#8217;t have to be so open about it.</p>
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		<title>By: WHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toby,

Call down now - take a seat, perhaps a glass of water.

As for Chimbonda - he obviously doesn't want to fight for his place, let him go.

We have Diarra, a good prospect, bleating that he cant get into a winning team, then asks not to be picked against spuds on wednesday cos his minds all f*cked up, compare that to Gilberto, last years best player, world cup winner, saying he knows it's hard to get into the team but he wants to keep fighting.

Which player would you rather have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toby,</p>
<p>Call down now - take a seat, perhaps a glass of water.</p>
<p>As for Chimbonda - he obviously doesn&#8217;t want to fight for his place, let him go.</p>
<p>We have Diarra, a good prospect, bleating that he cant get into a winning team, then asks not to be picked against spuds on wednesday cos his minds all f*cked up, compare that to Gilberto, last years best player, world cup winner, saying he knows it&#8217;s hard to get into the team but he wants to keep fighting.</p>
<p>Which player would you rather have?</p>
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		<title>By: TobytheYid</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobytheYid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*takes deep breath*

I agree with WHS - there, I said it.
We do need to be a bit careful when looking at new defenders - 'out for 6 weeks' is something I have grown tired of reading!

As for losing Chimbondabonda - Can't understand it - what it not to like about him??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*takes deep breath*</p>
<p>I agree with WHS - there, I said it.<br />
We do need to be a bit careful when looking at new defenders - &#8216;out for 6 weeks&#8217; is something I have grown tired of reading!</p>
<p>As for losing Chimbondabonda - Can&#8217;t understand it - what it not to like about him??</p>
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		<title>By: WHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny B,

I admire your loyalty, but maybe Robinson has just been found out ?

His reactions are simply too slow, though his instincts are sound, but for a player that seems to rely so much on confidence, are instincts enough ?

If you want to get into Europe, do you really need a keeper that has shipped a whopping 35 goals in 19 games, dammit that's a huge number of excuses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny B,</p>
<p>I admire your loyalty, but maybe Robinson has just been found out ?</p>
<p>His reactions are simply too slow, though his instincts are sound, but for a player that seems to rely so much on confidence, are instincts enough ?</p>
<p>If you want to get into Europe, do you really need a keeper that has shipped a whopping 35 goals in 19 games, dammit that&#8217;s a huge number of excuses!</p>
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		<title>By: WHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While idly fantasizing that I was the Arsenal Manager, so respected that anyone would beg to play for me, but being shrewd enough to not spend money just to prove you dont have to, I too thought about recruiting Woodgate.

His bad times are behind him and since he left the company of Bowyer / Dyer / Bellamy et al you know he will never make the same foolish mistakes again, a consumate professional, a great defender, possibly one of this countries most accomplished.

Made from crepe paper though.

When boro got him on a freebie (or is he still on loan ?) I did think, wow, bargain, but he was crocked a couple of games later and that story continues.

You already have an injury prone defender, whatever the class, do you need another ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While idly fantasizing that I was the Arsenal Manager, so respected that anyone would beg to play for me, but being shrewd enough to not spend money just to prove you dont have to, I too thought about recruiting Woodgate.</p>
<p>His bad times are behind him and since he left the company of Bowyer / Dyer / Bellamy et al you know he will never make the same foolish mistakes again, a consumate professional, a great defender, possibly one of this countries most accomplished.</p>
<p>Made from crepe paper though.</p>
<p>When boro got him on a freebie (or is he still on loan ?) I did think, wow, bargain, but he was crocked a couple of games later and that story continues.</p>
<p>You already have an injury prone defender, whatever the class, do you need another ?</p>
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